What Mainline Christianity
Erroneously
Teaches about the Davidic
Throne
By Liaf
I am about to post copyrighted material here! I want to go
over a step-by-step doctrinal outline that your run-of-the-mill,
hell-fire evangelist believes about the Throne of David. He will
preach that you will go to hell if you do not have any faith, but
we shall see that he does not have faith in what
the Bible says about a critical doctrine such as the Davidic
Throne. "Liaf, if you post copyrighted material without
permission, arent you plagiarizing?" Lets look
carefully at the definition of the word "plagiarize".
Plagiarizing is when you use somebody elses writing or
speech and pass it off as your own ideas without giving them
credit. Lets get something straight. I would not pass
off this outline as my own beliefs. Over my dead body.
Im here to critique it. "What about at least quoting
the source?" you may ask. I am not quoting this source
because after I am done setting things straight, the
"source" may not want to be identified. Actually, I am
not out to bash anybody personally, but I am about to bash an
erroneous doctrine. However, some may take it personally since
people oftentimes associate their person with their beliefs. In
other words, attack one and youve effectively attacked both
whether or not that is the intention. Tell ya what. If anybody
out there recognizes this as his or her material, just notify me
by e-mail. I will gladly remove it, and I will offer a
public apology and credit your name to this material. Any takers?
I thought not.
Below is an outline of the "Doctrine of the Davidic
Covenant". From what Ive heard, read, and studied,
this outline is not really unique. It expresses the typical
beliefs that the mainline church has about Davids eternal
albeit "fallen" throne. I will insert my comments in bold red within the outline. OK----
here is the outline and here we go:
DOCTRINE OF THE
DAVIDIC COVENANT
- Preliminary considerations.
- Scripture: 2Sam.7:12-16; cp.
Ps.89:3,4,19-37.
- Historical background.
- David had established his
authority over his enemies (2Sam.7:1).
- He lived in a house of
cedar and desired to build God a house
(2Sam.7:2).
- David was not permitted to
build this house, but was promised a
"house" that would endure
forever (2Sam.7:11).
- The prophet Nathan was
informed of the details by a vision
2Sam.7:4; Ps.89:19).
So far, just history.
This is OK.
- Key terms defined.
- "House" refers
to the Davidic royal dynasty
(2Sam.7:11,16).
- "Seed", or
"descendant", refers to the
male heirs, beginning with Solomon and
ending with Jesus Christ (2Sam.7:12;
Ps.89:4a,29a,36a)."Covenant"
refers to the binding contract between
God and His servant, David
(Ps.89:3a,28b,34a).No, the Bible allows
for female heirs if no male heirs were
present as long as the female heirs
married within their own tribe. Numbers
36 regarding Zelophehads daughters
proves this. It may end with Jesus
Christ, but at his first coming or
second? Remember, Jesus assumed NO THRONE
at his first coming, so there must be
heirs AFTER his first coming according to
this.
- "Throne" refers
to the right to rule over the kingdom
defined by the land grant of the
Abrahamic Covenant (2Sam.7:13,16;
Ps.89:4b,29b,36b).
- The Abrahamic Covenant is centered
in "land" and "seed". Actually, it involves MORE.
See how all those birthright promises are watered
down? God promised over ten major things to
Abraham that I can think of off the top of my
head.
- What the Covenant requires for
fulfillment: it demands that a biological
descendant of David occupy his throne forever.
Agreed, lets see if
this is believed later on in the outline. Notice the word
FOREVER there. What does forever mean? It means
CONTINUOUS and WITHOUT END.
- Reasons why David was selected.
- He was a member of the chosen
people (Ps.89:19c) and of the tribe destined for
royalty in Israel (Ps.78:68; cp. Gen.49:8-10;
Pss.60:7; 76:1; 108:8).
- He was in the line of Christ
(Rom.1:3).
- He was anointed king by the
prophet Samuel to replace the renegade Saul
(1Sam.16:13; Ps.89:20).
- He was spiritually qualified to
inherit such Ph2 blessing (2Sam.7:8,9; Ps.89:26).
- And he was physically endowed to
be a warrior-king (Pss.89:19b; 18:32-34).
- Promises associated with the Covenant
fulfilled in David's lifetime. David was promised:
- An heir who would succeed him and
who would build the Temple (2Sam.7:12,13).
- Continued success over his enemies
(Ps.89:21-23).
- A great name among the peoples of
the earth (2Sam.7:9).
- An expanded kingdom according to
the Abrahamic mandate (Ps.89:25; Ex.23:31;
Deut.1:7,8; 11:24; 1Kgs.4:21,24).
- Elevation to the highest rank of
kings (Ps.89:27; cp. 2Sam.7:14).
- The eternal provisions of the Covenant are
centered in two spheres: "seed/descendants"
and "throne" (Ps.89:3,4,28,29,35-37).
- There is the promise that there
will always be a Davidic descendant (Ps.89:4a;
2Sam.7:16).
- There is the promise that the
throne of David would last forever (Ps.89:4b;
2Sam.7:13).
OKWe are all agreed on
"A" and "B" here? Needless to say, if
one has an eternal throne, there must be a descendent to
rule. One must be careful here. They are splitting
"throne" and "seed" to claim an
eternal succession but would allow
for an interrupted throne. This is their escape hatch.
Whats amazing here is that this apparent split is
clearly seen by them, but they cannot distinguish
"Israel" form "Judah" which is
CLEARLY spelled out in scripture.
- The problem associated with the
interrupted rule of the house of David. Now wait a minute, we just agreed on
points "A" and "B" and the next word
is about an interruption? Well, at least it is seen as a
problem. Ill say its a problem. You
cant have "A" and "B" and have
an interruption at the same time.
- The problem stated.
- An uninterrupted
succession of kings ruled over the house
of David between 1010BC and 586BC.Of course there was an
uninterrupted succession of kings.
Thats what God promised wasnt
it?
- But with the fall of the
Southern Kingdom, the throne of David has
remained unoccupied to this present day.How did we arrive at
this conclusion? Because there appears
to be no throne? Hebrews 11:1 says,
"Now faith is the substance of
things hoped for, the evidence of things not
seen". You see,
the whole essence of faith is that God will
do as he promised no matter
how things look.
- Furthermore, God placed a
curse upon the line of descent through
Solomon during the reign of
Jehoiakin/Jeconiah/Coniah (Jer.22:30).
- This curse means that no
man in the David/Solomon line of descent
could ever prosper as ruler over
Israel, no matter how great he was
spiritually. Boy,
did they botch this one up BIG TIME!
Jeremiah 22:30 says, "Thus saith the
LORD, Write ye this man childless, a man
that shall not prosper in his days: for
no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting
upon the throne of David, and ruling any
more in Judah".
As usual, these mushy-headed types
confuse ISRAEL with JUDAH even though
there are SCORES of prophetic references
that CLEARLY distinguish the two. READ
Jeremiah 33:17 and see the difference.
This curse assured that nobody from the
Solomon/Jehoiachin (who was the same
person as Jeconiah and Coniah) lineage
would rule again in Judah when the house
of Judah returned from the Babylon
captivity. The throne was to be
transferred to the house of Israel. Yet,
the Solomon/Jehoiachin lineage is the
rightful lineage.
- Yet the promise to David
was that the throne of his son Solomon
would remain forever (2Sam.7:13,16). Thats right. At
least they see this much. The throne was
to David AND Solomon.
- Clearly, the promise does
not require an uninterrupted succession
of rulers, but it does require the throne
to be established forever. Clearly? No, its
NOT clear to me. What gives one the
faintest idea that scripture mandated an
interruption of the throne? It sounds to
me as if they are taking the apparent
interruption of the throne and twisting
scripture to fit the circumstances.
- The solution.
- The line of unbroken male
descendants continued from the time of
the Babylonian captivity to the birth of
Christ (cp. Mt.1:12ff). This was Jesus
legal lineage actually giving him a right
to Solomons throne.
- Because of the
"Jeconiah curse", the
individuals of this line could never
occupy the throne of David.
- So God established another
unbroken line of descent from David
through his son Nathan; this line links
Jesus to David biologically; this line is
Mary's genealogy (Lk.3:23ff). Do you know what?
Those who are critical of the throne
being continued through Zedekiah claim
that his descendents were not the
rightful heirs (because he was
Jehoiachins UNCLE and not the
logical, legal claimant) even though God
himself said, "Thus saith the Lord
GOD; I will also take of the highest
branch of the high cedar, and will set
it; I will crop off from the top of his
young twigs a tender one." (Ezekiel
17:22) God was speaking about
Zedekiahs lineage in this passage
and that tender twig represented
Zedekiahs daughter. Thats
enough proof for me. God said it so it
must be true. While I agree that Jesus is
of Nathans lineage by the flesh,
VERY LITTLE is said about Nathan other
than a brief mention of his name in
genealogies. If we can believe that God
chose Nathan in spite of the little
reference to him, then why cant we
believe that God chose Zedekiahs
descendents when more is said about them?
- The virgin birth enabled
Jesus to side-step the Coniah curse and
still retain the legal right to the
throne since Joseph was His legal link to
the throne, while Mary was His biological
link to David.
- Jesus Christ is, in every
way, the legal heir to the throne of
David.
- He will re-establish
David's throne in connection with His
Second Coming (Act.15:16).
Re-establish? How can
something eternal be re-established? That means
it was not eternal to begin with!
- Conclusion: The Covenant did not
guarantee uninterrupted rule by David's
descendants, but did require that the right to
rule would always remain with David's dynasty.
With conclusions like these,
Im glad these people are not our scientists. Why
did the covenant not guarantee uninterrupted rule? I have
yet to see any solid evidence in this outline that there
was an interruption other than an observation
of an apparent interruption that they fitted scripture to
seemingly answer.
- In the person of Jesus Christ, God
established the Covenant.
- The virgin birth enabled Jesus to
be the physical descendant of David and not come
under the "Jeconiah curse".
- The resurrection of Christ
eliminated the need for a continuation of the
genealogy (since Jesus died childless), and
provided the Covenant with an indestructible
heir. Actually,
we have a King (Jesus) who neither abdicated nor
is present at the moment to sit on the throne,
even though he is the primary legal heir. Because
he died childless, when he turns up, he can take
that throne (Luke 1:32). Until then, somebody
else must be on that throne since it is an
Earthly and eternal throne. Generally the rules
of a monarchy are that if the legal heir is
absent, then another must rule. If the heir shows
up again, the throne is rightfully his.
- The doctrine of the Second Advent
establishes the promise of an eternal throne for
David occupied by his greater son, Jesus Christ
(Lk.1:32,33).
- The security of the Covenant.
- It was not affected by the sins of
the Davidic kings (2Sam.7:14,15; Ps.89:30-37).Lets remember what they
just said here. The covenant was not affected by
their sins--- I agree. What was one of the
elements of the covenant? One was that the throne
was eternal.
- It is seen in the repeated use of
the term "forever" or its
equivalent (Ps.89:4,28,29,36). I must be psychic. I just
mentioned about it being eternal and the next
thing out of their mouths is about the covenant
being forever. Well, well.
- It was confirmed by a divine oath,
thus giving the strongest possible assurance to
its fulfillment (Pss.89:3,4,33; 132:11;
2Sam.7:13,16).
- The Covenant demands literal fulfillment. This is true. At least they see this
as an Earthly throne.
- Portions of the Covenant fulfilled
literally.
- David had a son, who built
the Temple, and who was disciplined for
his sins (2Sam.7:12-15).
- There is an unbroken line
of descendants from David to Christ, thus
fulfilling the "seed" promise
(Matthew 1 and Luke 3).
- Jesus Christ is a
descendant of David according to the
flesh (Act.2:29,30; Rom.1:3; 2Tim.2:8).
- The Jews of Jesus' day expected
literal fulfillment (cp. Mk.11:10; Jn.7:42).
- David so understood that the
Covenant was being fulfilled literally
(2Sam.23:5).
- Solomon, likewise, held this
conviction (2Chr.6:14-17).
- The unfulfilled portion has to do
with the "throne" promise
(2Sam.7:16). Their
famous escape hatch again. We do not see a
throne, but there must be descendents. So they
keep the descendents going but allow an
interruption in the throne. Actually, I do not
know of anybody who does not have some sort of
descendent. That is not a special miracle in
itself. If thats all God promised, then
that is not hard to do!
- Amillennialism (denial of
the doctrine of the literal 1,000-year
reign of Christ on earth) teaches that
the throne in heaven is David's throne.
- It is true that Jesus
Christ is seated on His Father's throne
in heaven in session (Heb.12:2); however,
the throne of God in heaven and the
throne of David are not one and the same.
Agreed.
The idea that the throne is now in heaven
is what more liberal theologians believe.
However, The Throne of God in heaven and
Davids Throne are separate.
- God has promised through
the prophets that the throne (political
rule) of David would be restored after
long centuries of non-existence at the
Second coming of Christ (Lk.1:31-33;
Act.15:14-17; cp. LXX of Amos.9:11,12). Luke 1:31-33 merely
states that Jesus will be given that
throne as the rightful heir. It says
nothing that the throne is vacant. Acts
15:14-17 in essence quoted Amos 9:11.
Amos 9:11 does not say the dynasty is
fallen. It says the tabernacle of David
is fallen. That is reference to the city
of David in ruins where the throne was
located. The punishment for disobedience
was exile and ruins, but not a fallen
throne (thus the throne would continue
elsewhere).
- The centuries since the
fall of the kingdom of Judah and the
dispersions of Israel have not rendered
the promise void, even though it may
appear to be the case (cp. Ps.89:38-49). Cut me a break! They
claim to believe in the promise even
though it appears not to be so? Even if
we KNEW NOTHING as to where the throne
was, a man or woman of faith would say
that although there is no throne in the
land, it must exist somewhere. They would
not believe it was fallen and say
its eternal at the same time. That
is not faith. Thats poor logic. If
we carefully read the Psalm 89 passage,
the writer laments what he believes is
the fall of the throne. His world must
have been crumbling because he certainly
believed it was to be UNINTERRUPTED. That
actually PROVES that the throne was meant
to be eternal. So we have some folks who
lament like this fellow and we have
others such as myself who KNOW the throne
exists.
- Whatever the changing
form, temporary interruptions, or
chastisements, the line of David will
always retain the right to rule over
Israel and will, in fact, exercise this
privilege.
- The right to rule will
never be transferred to another family,
and the Covenant's blessings are designed
for eternal perpetuity (cp. Ps.89:34-36
"My covenant I will not violate,
Nor will I alter the utterance of My
lips. Once I have sworn by My holiness/integrity;
I will not lie to David. His descendants
shall endure forever, and his throne as
the sun before Me").
- It is confirmed in such
passages as Isa.9:6,7; Jer.23:5,6;
30:8,9; 33:14-17,20,21; Ezek.37:24,25;
Dan.7:13,14; Hos.3:4,5; Amos.9:11;
Zech.14:4-9.
- David's throne was
temporarily vacated due to the
disobedience of his descendants, but the
promise to rule forever stands because of
the faithfulness of his greater Son,
Jesus Christ.Lets
get this straight. They believe the
throne was vacant due to disobedience yet
back in VII A of the outline they said
the covenant was not affected by their
sins? Which is it now? I want all of you
husbands to think twice before you say
your wives are fickle. Your wives are
nowhere as fickle as these theologians.
- Again, the only necessary
feature of the Covenant is that the
lineage is unbroken, not that
the throne be occupiedcontinuously.
Again,
there is no special miracle in an
unbroken lineage. If thats all
their God can do, then trust me, I am not
of the same spirit as they are. As for
the throne not being occupied, lets
test that theory by scripture. Psalms
89:36-37--- "His SEED shall endure
forever, AND his THRONE
as the sun before me. It
[the throne] shall be
established for ever as the moon,
and as a faithful witness in heaven.
Selah." This means that as long as
there is a sun and moon, there is a
THRONE!! PERIOD!!! I want them to show me
the scripture at allows them to
emphatically underline " not that the
throne be occupied
continuously." since
Ive already shown where I get my
authority to make my bold assertions.
Dont listen to these FALSE
PROPHETS. They are "without fruit,
twice dead, plucked up by the
roots". They say they believe the
covenant, but are WRESTING scripture to
allow for an APPARENT fallen throne. They
have no faith and are doing everything to
make the likes of me look foolish when
all I am doing is STATING THAT GOD
PRESERVES THE DAVIDIC THRONE AS HE HAS
PROMISED. They are no more born again
than the chair you are probably sitting
on to read this.
- The kingdom on earth to be
established by Christ be an eternal
kingdom, since the
"throne/house/kingdom" were all
promised to David in perpetuity.
- According to the
established rules of interpretation
(hermenuetics), the unfulfilled
"throne" promise must be
fulfilled literally, as were the
fulfilled portions (as is the case with
the "seed" promise).
Well, well. Here is that special
word "Hermeneutics" again. And I spelled it right for
them, too. I wont be too hard on them. Maybe with these
terrible windows based computers, their letters just reversed
with their fast evangelistic typing. Which one of my messages do
I say something about that word? I cant remember tonight. I
guess youll just have to read all of
the messages.
Liafs conclusions (if they can make some, I suppose I
can too):
When we look carefully at scripture, we see their
contradictions. Their doctrine just does not hold water. They do
not believe in an eternal throne because they do not want to
believe in it. I could be a little more understanding if
ruling descendents of David could be found NOWHERE in history.
However, that is not the case. At a site such as this (and there
are others), we offer the solutions. God has revealed this in
these last days, but many ignore or scoff at the answers. They
may think that if Jesus were here today, that they would not
treat him like the Pharisees did. Bullsplat! Theyd treat
him worse. They would not recognize the truth that he taught. How
do I know this? Jesus said, "If I have told you earthly
things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you
of heavenly things?" The faith in the perpetual nature
of the Davidic Throne is an EARTHLY doctrine. It takes less faith
in my opinion to believe in a society migrating than the
supernatural (heavenly) miracle of Jesus resurrection.
"But we do believe that Jesus rose from the dead
again." they may say. I would not bet on it. No, not really
if they cant believe earthly things. Not by a long
shot.